What does that person have to offer him? I would play this weird game of being bold and defending thesegirls, butdoing it in a way that doesnt get you removed,he said. Most people who have problems with the Cornerstone are not looking at it from a religious point of view. Hope that you make good decisions. Snell could not be reachedafterrepeated attempts, including a letter to his home, phone calls and an email to his wife. ooooh scary. Hi Romesha, Please E-mail me. Speaking of spelling incorrectly, this is a forum, not a firum. Investigate Cornerstone Church for Sexual Assault and Abuse And you will only know on the last day what a difference this conference made. But he saved his greatest praise for Al Mohler, President of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, architect of the conservative revolution in the Southern Baptist Convention, and the top-billed speaker at the conference. Ive been by their place and its not that much. Oh, and Hayden, thanks for giving your name. If there werent significant mammon being waved in their face, they simply wouldnt show. In afall 2020 letter,Wayne Aarum saidhe was reinstatedas presidentand that Circle Cs independent investigation was complete, andhad found no factual basisfor the allegations against him at that point. I am a member and was when these incidents occured. They have no integrity whats soever this is also proven by if the above article regarding Delta was true, there would have been counseling that really was done, when it fact, there wasnt ever any counseling, because the incident never took place. But then again, dealing with false teachers is never pleasant. I wish Id done more, Gillis said. They were seated off to the sidein the dining hall, while a few other people milled around. These girls often hadamix of issues going on in their home lives and a desire to talk at length about their adolescent problems, according to McDonald and other former Ranch staff members. Whats worse, public masterbation or being a murderer? Thirdly: During the beginning of the trial, more than 4 people (women)reported to the police that the individual they saw had an uncanny likeness to michael pitts and they gave a description of a car that was later followed up on and the individual that owned the car DID have a definite likeness to the pastor, as well as a record as long as your arm of indecent exposure and assault!! I hope you all will take a lesson and leave it alone. The witness never actually was indicted for purgery, but maybe, the charges were suddenly dropped because he was going to be??? Please consider becoming a digital subscriber. That incident speaks for itself. Church Online is a place for you to experience God and connect with others. Although I find posting here quite enjoyable. Why is the church still strong? I am sincerly praying for all of you and I hope you all find a piece inside that would release you to the Word of God instead of wasted HOURS on the internet. Finally, both of Pastor Pitts attornies accepted Jesus and now attend his church as a direct result of the entire ordeal. He ran his hands over her shorts and up her thigh,toward her crotch, andslidhis fingers against her outer labia. $$ - $$$ Mexican Southwestern Latin. your both pussys please tell me where you live and work so we can meet. Pastor Pitts is NO man of Godhe is a sheep in wolves clothing. What good is all this gossiping and backstabbing doing the Kingdom of God? CEO of M.A.P.S. These environments are often helped by a network of oblivious, passive or complicit supporters or followers who dont report the perpetrators actions, saidMinette Drumwright, a professor and researcher at the University of Texas at Austin who has studied workplace harassment. said Lester Sumrall about the Maumee building, We began holding services in East Toledo at the Historic Eastwood Theater, Cornerstone Harvest Church planted in Lima, OH, We invest 4.2 million dollars in world class facilities for the children's wing and multipurpose facilities at our Maumee Campus, Cornerstone City Church planted in Wayne, MI, We celebrated the consecration of Pastor Michael Pitts to the office of Bishop, We launched Heal The World as an outreach arm of Cornerstone Church, The historic Eastwood Theater was and once again began holding services as the new Eastwood Campus, Cornerstone City Church restructures as our Wayne Campus, Purchased the Summit building in downtown Toledo and began renovations, Cornerstone Harvest Church restructures as our Lima Campus, Cornerstone launches as the Downtown Campus, Phil and Meredith Ryburn installed as Lead Pastors. Im done. I personally was really impressed with how Pastor handled the service. Myself, My family, and my church are passed the past, and I will not stand for defemation of charector. Wevebeen conditioned to think that abuse is the man in the trench coat in the bush, but often its someonewho would never beconsideredcapable of that behavior,Denhollander said. In 1997, he faced eight counts of public indecency and seven counts of criminal trespass, linked to a series of incidents in which a man matching Pastor Pitts description was reported exposing himself to people in places like a local park and a Wal-Mart parking lot. [1], In 2015, Pitts commenced monthly revival services in San Jose, California. Read all 4 reviews . Two young men step out. 48hr left. [26], International Communion of Charismatic Churches, "Cornerstone's pastor elevated to higher rank", "Rev. The bible says to judge someone by his fruit. His next arrest was the very public exposing incident, in which the majority of charges were dropped and Pitts plead guilty to trespassing. The boys identified him in person, right there! He is the founding pastor of Cornerstone Church and oversees the Cornerstone Global Network, a network of over 150 churches throughout the US, Mexico, Argentina, Colombia, South Africa and the UK. princess1075. Uhhh false doctrine uhhh he wants your money uhhh false doctrine Until members really wake up and ask God to show them the truth, this man will continue to excel. 97% of travelers recommend this experience. Send your wonderful presence and your fire on each one who reads this!!! MAUMEE -- A local pastor convicted of drunk driving is back home. For me, it doesnt matter if he did what he has been accused of They arent true, and if you want to believe bad about someone, then you will. It was difficult not to notice this car, nor identify it incorrectly. Michael Pitts will, Im sure, be more than happy to tell them about the good things Cornerstone does. Nice try whoever you are. But then again, dealing with false teachers is never pleasant. Thats the childish statement. Dekalb declined to comment generally for this story. Citing client confidentiality, Dr. Forgac would not comment. I have been to Pastor Pitts church and seen him do AWESOME things for the Lord. So many things in those cases didnt add up. You want to argue a point that is mute. Do you feel like you have to give more than you can afford or are you made to feel guilty regarding how much you do or dont tythe? ****There is soooo much more I could tell you about people and facts and craziness, but it would be a book****** Is the harvest less than the seed? Leadership at both The Chapel and Circle C Ranch, and also Aarum himself, have beenconfronted withconcerns abouthisconductat least 20 times since 1997, according to excerpts from Aarums employee personnel file at The Chapel, andinterviews with youth group members at The Chapel,Circle C staff and pastors in the Western New York area. Jon Schuerholz, executive pastor at Cornerstone Church in Grand Island CarolynMcDonald's childhoodchurch was present, andpushed the board memberstotake action. Had the authorities had any convincing evidence on him, they would not have dropped all the charges and offered him a trespassing plea, would they? I know that Im not perfect I have done and said things that I wish I can take back but I cant there is nothing you can do but Ask God for forgiveness. [1], Michael Pitts was born in south Lima, Ohio, in 1964 to factory workers Eugene and Brenda Pitts. A different perspective I dont necessarly dismiss the man based on his actions. Finally, Cornerstone Church is a place completely centered on Christ. You can reach her on Twitter @gsilvarole or by email at gsilvarole@gannett.com. remember when you write in the sand baby. Men are to point to Jesusthe Holy Spirit leads and guides us into all truth. Hes just a man. Does anyone know if this is true? Going to the next level, a new season, Im believing God for a harvest, getting my stuff back from the devil are saying frequently used in Charasmatic circles. no problem Julie if anyone wants to know the TRUTH about Pastor Pitts e-mail me at hockeyjk@yahoo.com lets just say I have an inside connection. Like I said, I cant make you think differently, nor can you make me. Have you not read in the New Testament that if you do one part of the law you are obligated to keep all of the law? trust me, I do know more about Pastor Michael Pitts than the average perishener. Of course, Pitts was able to continue putting on his grand conferences because no one really knew that he was showing his private parts to little boys on a golf course. All fourdid not respond. The request was deniedbecause both state and county child abuse reports are confidential. Josh, is there any way you could post the Police Report from the Delta arrest? That is why he was not found guilty of ANY of them. They lived bored lives and were hungry for entertainment. I know its hard. The focus is to keep people intimidated and blinded to the real issues. As womensstories have piled up over the last year, thedevastatingeffects of Aarumstreatment of girlsare crystal clear to Ferrante. 35 years experience public speaking in over 20 nations. Cmon, how stupid would he have to be? Im still not angry, but it seems youd like me to be. The developer provided this information and may update it over time. Disgusting! As far as thinking the people were walking in funny ummm I guess I can believe you were once a member of a cult. Pastor Pitts is from that particular branch of Christianity that believes that being a holy man and making enormous profits from ones church are not mutually contradictory. If these things are true ( which only God and Pastor Pitts really know ) then we should be protecting him. TOLEDO, OH - This will not be easy on the eyes. He loves the congregation with all his heart, and he DOES point to Jesus in his preaching teachings writings etc. [24][25], Pitts is the second of four children to Eugene and Brenda Pitts. (www.cornerstonetoledo.com)Why dont you worry about your own walk and stop judging another mans servant if you want reference scripture. If you speak up or leave, you are cursed by the church. and called and tried over and over to contact the church (it was a service night)to let someone know. Youre defensiveness is coming out. Can you openly talk about your concerns with other members (like the Pitts fiasco I have seen messages about)about issues in the church you dont agree with? If I got fired, who was going to stand in the gap?. Suggested duration 1-2 hours Suggest edits to improve what we show. so, if you didnt get that, it wasnt at all because she was not outgoing that I thought her snotty at all. I told him that when #MeToo came out, hes the one I thought of," Adema said. The USA TODAY NETWORKs requests for comment from McDonald's lawyers were not returned. When asked if he had even been confronted about his interactions with teen girls at campbyboard members, Ranch employees or volunteers, Aarum said no family member or Ranchboard memberhad even complained to him regarding his conduct. What does that matter? This is the man that appeared on the. He stood in harms way to protect Gods people, he faced death and peril to protect Gods peoplehe was righteous. The Lord showed Bishop Pitts to me in a very vivid dream because I was idolizing him. He does great things for lots o people!!! Circle C Ranchpublishedmultiple statementson itswebsitein recent months,doubling down on the argument that Aarum has never acted inappropriately with teenage girlsin any pastoralrole. Nor does that attitude reflect in my posts. Look at the lineage of Jesus in the book of Matthew, Jesus line is litter with imperfection. Men will rise and men will fall but the one I came to preach about is JESUS! I came back just to see if you had the nerve to comment again. Defined under legal terminology, (in which I have an understudy degree in law) is most frequently referred to as a subpeona. Are you going to be labeled in some way.such as proud or self-righteous? You will not hear from me again on this forum, because I have better things to do than dig up peoples opinions of my past. The Cstone app from Cornerstone Church connects you with everything that is happening. Not someone who looked like Pastor Pitts the good man himself, driving his own car! The Apostles in Acts gave everything they had to meet the needs of the members of their churches. Pastors at The Chapel spent most of last yeararranging orsupportingmeetings between Chapel staff, Aarum orCircle C board members,and the growing number of women alleging Aarums abuse. Immediately following the purchase, several area pastors complained that their shows had been pulled from regular programming. But in the middle of the hustle and bustle of your pathetic groveling, I hope you find Jesus. I find it painstakingly difficult to believe he would post as Mike Pitts on this firum, because he wouldnt Once again, nice try. Even if the girls get closure, theres a good chance that hes going to continue on spiritually manipulatingpeople if none of the truth gets out there.. Thats their business. I was a member there for a number of years with my family then I attended alone because my husband refused to go back. But I know, your not mad in the slightest. There are many (legal) ways to structure things where you can take the burden of insurance off the church. That thiswas what Ihad hoped for and thought that it was.. Yes I am. Jesus completed the law but he didnt disregard it. In 1995, he was stopped by police after allegedly being spotted masturbating in front of two young boys hitting golf balls at a local baseball diamond. It dawns on you pretty quickly that this is not appropriate, Smith said. But I want justice.. As far as the exposure incidents go, he didnt have any excuses because he held to the fact that he was innocent. long time member Prosperity preachers didnt make that up. In response, The Chapels executive pastor, John Camardo, said in a May 1 statement to reporters: The Chapel has reviewed the personnel file and believes that the assertations made by Mr. Aarum are not consistent with the contents of the file.. app is safe and it keeps me connected to what I need most, thank you Lord, https://pushpay.com/legal-center/privacy/. Save. In 2009, Ferrante, now a program director at camp during the summers,spoke toWayne Aarum's father, Wes Aarum Sr., abouthis concerns. Soyou be the judge, is someone righteous base on what they do, or what they believe? Pettit Rieman has not responded to the USA TODAY NETWORKs multiple requests for comment. It understands that as Christ unconditionally loved us so must we love one another. From events to our Online Campus you can all the information and resources you need to grow in your faith and connect with others. Kathy, Im not bitter at all. Thanks. I do not believe Pitts is doing great things. He. Heres the link: so I dont sweat the small stuff. I WAS in fact looking for some past info. The warrants issued by a court normally are search warrants, arrest warrants, and execution warrants. Wake up and smell the coffee! Hi there, The bible says to bring your tithe into the storehouse and a blessing would be poured out on you. matthew! He would kiss their foreheads, or put his forehead to theirs in a close embrace a particular physical encounter thatstaff members at the Ranch would refer toas gettingWayned., Aarum said in a May 7, 2021, email thathe had never touched anyonein a way that was unsuitable orincorrect in the work, situation, location, setting, or circumstances.. THEY HAVE DAMAGED COUNTLESS PEOPLE AND CONTINUE TO PREY ON VULNERABLE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY!! July 16, 2020 09:07 AM. Former camp staffersand youth group members sayWayneAarum hada reputation for being boththe cool guyand the sensitive, serious type; some had a deep aversion to him. If youre looking for the truth, I promise you that you will never regret if you choose to leave there. I dont expect anyone to understand the blessings of being a child of Abraham. Truth always outlives a lie. For MANY reasons. According to Randy Fancher, a board member at the time,Hilliker's recommendations, relayed viaa meeting with board members and later in a thread of emails to board members, were that Aarum resign permanently and be replaced,and that the board be restructured to add more non-family members. Ill pray for you Matt. In my book Pitts has lots of strikes against him, but God is the one he will ultimately have to answer to. Why cant we all do the same. Toledo is a very racist, bureaucratic and segregated place that fears the truth and God. Im not trying to critize, just inform you. Why am I bringing this up after the fact? ABOUT US CHURCH APPAREL WATCH NOW GIVE More ABOUT US; CHURCH APPAREL; WATCH NOW; GIVE; ABOUT US . They went on disability because insurance companies have a propensity to make you cancel with premium increases, and viola the government picked up their medical bills. Oh, looks like I stuck a nerve. If you dont feel like you can approach a leader, why not? By the way, its Michael, not MIchael easy isnt it.. Has your involvement in Cornerstone alienated you from your family? I think alot of other churches, have a problem with the mixed congregation. A bishop must be blameless, with a good report both within (from the church) and without (the community). Never. So we must ask ourselves the question, what makes us righteous? Why dont you do a search to find out what Michael really believes. I DONT THINK ANYONE IS WILLING TO BOTHER GETTING THE DELTA REPORTTHEY WOULD RATHER BASE THEIR OPINIONS ON RUMORS. The investigationsfindings were serious enough that Norris recommendedChapel staff tosharethemwithlaw enforcement, state and localOffice ofChildren and Family Services agencies and state and local Department of Health agenciesbefore her report was complete,she said. I have been to quite a few services and I frequently watch online but I live too far away unfortunatly to attend faithfully. May God richly bless you all! And if you find out if the other was true. It sounds to me as if you could use what Pastor hasGod. GEORGIE SILVAROLE, Tina Yee, NEW YORK STATE TEAM. He was out of the country on half of the alleged dates. You want to differentiate his doctrine from his behavior, but from a Biblical perspective they are both inerrant. Dont waste your time or money with this church. He holds a Bachelor's Degree in Religion from Reed College, where he wrote his thesis on Christian Worship Music. This forum is for talking about the subject at hand. That didnt seem right. Carolyn McDonald was one of the first women to make the Circle C board aware of her abuse allegations, in the form ofanemailonOct. 6. You like talking in circlesyoure not really making a valid point here, especially when you need to bring River Phoenix into it. And so he handed out the sentence that he did because he knew he was innocent and he hated that fact. Actually, God did show the truth, they just choose to ignore it. Pitts is not the end all be all in the Charismatic realm. As part of the unusual plea agreement, both prosecution and defense agreed that neither side would be allowed to discuss the reasons for the sudden deal. The dumbest things ever blurted out by San - San Antonio Current espescially the part which involves frustrating would be impersonators. [4] In 1995, Pitts moved the Church to Reynolds Road in Maumee, just outside Toledo, with a 2,500-seat facility. Havent you seen the pattern? Cornerstone Church Julie: I just liked seeing you going back and forth with Dan. I donot follow him I follow Christ And if they are out of control spiritually and naturally, where does that leave those following them? Who cares what kind of outward gifts he gives. Keep your money in your pocket, since you have a better use for it. Everything Ive read so far, everystoryon Facebook I dont doubt it, he said. Pastor Pitts oversees aVAST NETWORKof churches throughout the country and outside the United States. 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John: To contradict your statement, the following was taken from the article posted in the TOLEDO BLADE on Sunday, November 30, 1997. FIFTHLY:The reason INDEED that the case was dropped was definitely because of purgery. Do I need to prove this is really me, NO, because it doesnt matter. Mayor of Toledo, Department of Justice: Investigate Cornerstone Church for Sexual Assault and Abuse, Investigate Cornerstone Church for Sexual Assault and Abuse, http://crabwalk.com/2003/08/pastor-pitts/, https://www.toledoblade.com/local/2000/08/30/Pastor-Pitts-charged-with-drunken-driving/stories/200008300021, https://www.wtol.com/article/news/pastor-pitts-faces-judge/512-e11a9b95-93b0-42b3-8c56-a395a7481a30, https://gcmwatch.wordpress.com/2009/09/04/the-michael-pitts/, https://lifeaftercornerstonetoledo.blogspot.com/2010/09/its-just-me-life-after-toledo-pit-stop.html, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Pitts_(pastor), This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google. ROFLMBO, yeah, do post it once more please, and while your at it, look up this verse: Matthew 5:22 BUT I TELL YOU THAT ANYONE WHO IS ANGRY WITH HIS BROTHER WILL BE SUBJECT TO JUDGEMENT. I dont buy it. I really believe Pastor Pitts is sincere and annoited. Here you will find a variety of messages from Phil and Meredith Ryburn and the team at Cornerstone C. But he didnt. Improve this listing All photos (14) Top ways to experience nearby attractions Self Guided "Detroit's Spirit and History" Solo Walking Tour 4 So, my friends, Im not going to be here anymore. Themeeting with the Circle C board, brokered by The Chapel,demonstrated the boards reticence to acknowledge apattern of troubling behavior from Aarum. All Right, all right, I never said I was a shining beacon of light. He is a man who has guided my learning well. Is there an image trying to presented through the leadership to attact young, professionals to the church? WSPD and 92.5 are owned by the same companyClearChannel. Within a year, however, she said she would go to the police to report heruneaseabout thehabitsshed seen develop betweenWayne Aarum and teenage girls at the camp. You dont need Pitts approval or covering. Cornerstone Church - Home - Facebook He was released over the weekend. Many ofthose womenwould later spend years in therapyto erase traces of emotional entanglement with him. Although he will likely never be as popular as he once was, with the help of friends like Mohler, he can continue to speak and earn a four-digit speaker fee. Members have reported being propositioned for sexual favors in exchange for money, gifts, and positions/titles/opportunities in the ministry. Suppose someone was to lay out all that you, Josh, have done in the past 12 years, Im sure it would be somewhat less than flattering. Both clearly violated in this forum. I dont foresee that happening. Thanks. Another aspect of the story that is seldom told is the fact that the park official who brought the charges against Pastor Pitts was indicted for purgery. If you open up your heart and ask God to reveal to you the truth, He will. Here is my last offer. Several authorities, includinglocal police andthe Cattaraugus County Department of Health,have received reportsaboutAarum. Michael did marry me and my husband and I attended all locations (Douglas, Byrne, Airport Hwy. Despite these efforts to raisethe alarmabout Aarumsbehavior,he remains in his position as president at Circle C Ranch as of spring2021, a role in which he has spentconsiderable time with adolescent staff members. Darla: what did you mean by his kids dont defame people for all the world to see? However, I dont need the copy to know its true. Please call 419-725-5000 if youd like to discuss further. My reference is based upon years of experience. julie: looking at this from a completely nontheistic viewpoint, the fact that Pitts was acquitted should be proof enough, in this country anyway, of his innocence. Other women alleging abuseat Aarums handssaidthey're not considering filing civil lawsuitsat this time. Thats the mentality of America that he has found a foundation to preach upon. After the lawsuit against SGM was dropped, in fact, Mohler and two fellow evangelicals published a. for Mahaney, calling him our friend and a vast influence for good. The statement claimed that Mahaney was not charged with any credible, serious, and direct wrongdoing. Thus, they wrote, we, along with many others, refused to step away from C.J. Everyone says they always turn you down though, and you have to fight. The truth is that God holds us and judges us and makes us accountable for our actions. Megachurches are usually terrible, this is no exception. Furthermore, I do not agree that Pitts is a sharp, intelligent man. . All Rights Reserved. Can you walk away from the church today if you dont agree with whats being taught or do you feel like they have you so wrapped that you would have to sneak away and break all connections? Updated: 11:03 PM CST January 30, 2020 SAN ANTONIO The brother of a San Antonio megachurch pastor was arrested Wednesday and charged with indecency with a child by contact and continuous . You think they were convinced of his innocence? Pitts is lying. 48hr left. On the contrary, I thought she spoke alot!! In 2007 the Church severed all ties with Miller, who later filed bankruptcy and relocated. Patterns of predatory behavior emerged and grew more egregious as time passed.. I gotta say, Im overwhelmed by the fact that so many Christians would rather gossip about the past and put down and talk trash about a congregation or minister of the gospel. I had never been to Cornerstone prior to that, but a memember and friend ask me to attend. I should make it clear that he was never convicted of any of these charges. Private MotorCities National Heritage Area Antique Car Tour, Half-Day Classic Food Tour in Ann Arbor with Lunch, Auburn Cord Duesenberg Automobile Museum Admission Ticket, E-Bike Rentals along the Sandusky Bay & The Islands, Fresh Mediterranean Inspired Cooking Class in a Unique Detroit Home, Ann Arbor Scavenger Hunt: Ann Arbor Adventure, Adventurous Scavenger Hunt in Detroit by 3Quest Challenge, Scavenger Hunt Adventure in Toledo by Crazy Dash, Fort Meigs Ohio's War of 1812 Battlefield. Pitts pleaded "no contest,"and Judge Gary Byers found him guilty and sentenced him to 9 days in the Corrections Center of Northwest Ohio in Stryker. You obviously only attended Pastor Pitts church as periodically and never really listened to what he preached theres no way you would be so foolish as you are now to touch Gods anointed. After all thats what they teach isnt it, if you give enough youll get rich? The lawsuit against SGM, which fizzled out in the late spring due to statutes of limitations, alleged that church leaders, including Mahaney, had actively worked to protect multiple abuse perpetrators while harassing and intimidating victims into silence. Simple as that. He is a man, after all. Attorneys file lawsuits. His behavior does NOT represent the rest of us. His wife had their first child the same time and same hospital I had triplets!!! Try reading the 6th chapter of I Timothy that says withdraw thyself from those that preach godliness is a source of gain. Any attention on his perversion would jeopardize the flow on money which allow him to continue his upper echelon lifestyle. Look people, if Pitts WASNT guilty, why did he plea bargain with a sudden deal?