Glasgow Braendam Link is a Company Limited by Guarantee, Registered in Scotland, No. 125m Harley's ice cream parlour . I'll do a bit of investigating. Men and Boys by Hugh Cavanagh. Seven generations of our family have been born in Govan. I remember that when he told me that he had studied at university and that what he was now doing was his job I laughed at his education and his job. Not a penny in our pockets other than the price of admission to the pictures on a Saturday afternoon and some extra for some sweeties, I remember my grandmother used to give Helen my sweetie coupons from the back of the Ration Book, as she had such a sweet tooth that she would have ate her way through February and March coupons even though it was only January and stores knew we were still going to be rationed for some time to come (I didn't have a sweet tooth so always had coupons to spare). Jimmy's was our local shop and Ruby's was out local bakery which fed the Fairfield's workers. I was born in the Southern General Hospital in 1958 and lived at 23 McGregor Street, Chookiehill [Teucharhill] as it was fondly called then. My parents lived at 49 Nethan Street and I was born at the Southern General in 1939. Govan (#646) This is a guide to the history and major genealogical records of Scotland as they pertain to the parishes of Lanarkshire. Svisiace strnky. [16] In 1912, Glasgow annexed Govan after a series of annexation battles. At the end of his stay in the housing scheme Damer wrote a report on the area entitled From Moorepark to Wine Alley in what was a damning indictment of officialdom for its arrogant neglect of Moorepark and the people who lived there. As the rate of urbanisation has increased in the last 30 years, the government capacity to support the disadvantaged within this sphere has in many cases failed. Lastly, the reflections are intended to be used as a tool among the many Church, statutory, voluntary, and charitable organisations, to aid and encourage a fresh approach to the eradication of poverty in our lives today. Today the area is policed from bright new shiny offices opposite Bellahouston Park on Helen Street. My father, Alex Grant and brother Davie lived one up at 129 Elderpark Street. I married in Glasgow, Scotland in 1974 and emigrated to Canada that same year, I have lived in Canada ever since. My mother Josaphine Devlin and her brother Greg were born Drumoyan Street Govan. In reply to these petitions, the Scottish Parliament wrote to Glasgow City Council and to Scottish Enterprise Glasgow, asking for their responses to the submission and within 4 months, Glasgow Council had taken steps to set up the Central Govan Action Plan.16 I now live in Brydekirk village but I'll never forget Govan. I remember two days before we left in 1963, I took her to the Govan Fair, and that was the last one I ever saw. One summer, I walked to the steamie and managed to get some photos of it. Fall in Woodinville at After Hours Wine Walks in Woodin Creek Village! My Granny lived at 60 Greenfield Street next to Mrs Knox's wee shop. One flat was chosen in Wine Alley and a second across the road in a collection of tower blocks called Iona Court. Even having a "piece" thrown from the window was an adventure would it be "butter"and sugar or Jam what a treat! Glasgow | Govan | Central Masterplan & Urban Fabric | Page 4 Does anyone remember; Sophie, Robert; and Mary,who lived in Carmichael Street, Govan 1936? Therefore, the purpose of this Reflection is to make a contribution to the discussions on community planning and have the thoughts of people who have lived through other @AlanJParks" It was regarded at the time as perhaps the worst slum in Britain, and the people who lived there were treated like vermin by the authorities whom we treated likewise. Obituary: Sister Doreen Grant, pioneering - HeraldScotland He also had a shop in Govan Road and he lived at 31 (I think) Copland Road, his name was Robert Reid and he had 2 daughters, Jane my mother and her sister Molly who lived for years in Merryland Street before it was pulled down. He had a kilt on and a curly walking stick. 122m The Govan Shed . The owner later came in with home-made tablet for all of us. They were followed there and back by a second surveillance team and the vehicle stopped near Ibrox. Community planning began in the rapidly industrialising 19th century cities of Great Britain and America where reformers and well-wishers wanted to ameliorate the appalling living conditions of the working classes. For those who did move in, it was not a matter of them wanting to live in the area, it was more a case of people with little or no choice about where they could stay. I was born in Govan in 1950 at 10 Pearce Street across from the P.I., there was only one close in Pearce Street. Their powerlessness in this matter soon became clear when Moorepark was deliberately targeted as a dumping ground for Glasgows homeless, those on low incomes, and people with few housing points who were enabled to jump the waiting list if they accepted a house in the scheme. 'Wine Alley', Govan Pop: 10,875 (whole ward) Problems: Mainly drug-related crime. Glasgow Crime Stories: The drug nightmare of Wine Alley. Govan's earliest recorded name may be found in the Historia regum Anglorum attributed to Symeon of Durham. [28], In 1977, the Labour government of James Callaghan passed the Aircraft and Shipbuilding Industries Act which nationalised Govan and grouped it with other major British shipyards as British Shipbuilders. The huge shoe shop was, I think Bayne and Ducketts. Instead, it referred to the popularity of cheap and powerful tonic wines particularly with young people - the vast consumption of which would often lead to violence and disorder. Log In. I personally don't have any memories of Govan although I'm sure I visited family who were living there many years ago in the late sixties. Run by a tall slim guy whose son was a racing cyclist ? When he had gone, we used to draw pictures in the coal dust on the white sheet on our bed. I was born in Broomloan Road Ibrox in Govan in 1958. contact IPSO here, 2001-2023. My grandparents on my mother's side were McElhinneys and attended Plantation Church while my dad's side and myself attending our Lady and St Margaret's Chapel. 124m D.C Hair&Beauty . We lived directly opposite the Steamie and I vividly recall playing "ball" against the red brick wall for hours. When in trouble the Govanites all come together. Lots of other good memories but also remember the terrible fires which took place. Somewhere, communication had broken down so completely, that while the latter felt powerless to do anything about the situation, the remedies of the former only made the situation worse. These adverts enable local businesses to get in front of their target audience the local community. Datum OSGB36 - NGR. During fortnight surveillance in February 1989, they discovered that the same gang member had hired his biggest car yet. The police discovered an empty flat on the eighth floor which would give them a birds eye view of the entrance to Burnsides tenement flat close. I was born in Broomloan Road by the pot heid (TSB) bank which is still there. They share a rivalry with St Anthony's F.C. I also remember the candy apple man and rag man, I also remember at the top of Greenfield Street as a wee boy of 8 watching a horse drawn Beatties bread wagon relieving itself, what a flood lots of great memories. I went to Greenfield then Govan High left school in 1975 and worked in Govan shipyard canteen my mates wee Calum McLean, Brian Lavoury, Billy Cameron, Tam Reid, Jim Reynolds and Stephen Gourley now living in England. If you are dissatisfied with the response provided you can This was around 1954ish. Thus, the major failing of any community planning is its inability to understand this relationship between the community and authority in detail and in an objective manner. Sad to see Govan now but many happy memories. The Govan ferry was something special for us to go on, either by ourselves or with our mum. It closed permanently to regular passenger services on 9 May 1921. In this way they dispelled the idea of the workers being "work-shy" and also wanted to illustrate the long-term viability of the yards. He had a broken leg, but we cuddled and comforted him until someone with a car was found, hours later, to get him to the vets. Govan, Lanarkshire, Scotland Genealogy FamilySearch Nostalgic 3w Siobhan McCrone Joseph McCrone Going down the pyramids on a bread crate all good till ur fingers caught underneath 7 4w 1 Reply There I was, short hair, snotty-nosed from crying and eating an ice cream cone. It was just before I packed in this job that I met Sean Damer when he came to our house to some of the family in 1974. I went to Broomloan Rd nursery then the school. No1seems2care. Nobody like them in the World. . [21], The area has had a reputation for deprivation and poverty, partly due to the construction of housing estates in the 1930s to relieve the overcrowded slum district of The Gorbals, Glasgow. They were both always on a mission to land a. [31] GEC's Marconi Marine division already owned YSL (purchased in 1985) and VSEL (purchased in 1995). Another is the horses and carts assembled at Harmony Row. I loved Govan how all the woman watched as we played there was always an adult around and if they were not outside you knew exactly where to find them sitting in a house having a cup of tea great great days I wish we had lived in Govan longer than my 5 years but we always had many visits back to see relies and old neighbours. 6 Markus, 1993, p. 163 The first was an experimental improvement programme, which had the initiatives: the partial modernisation of the houses, the re-planning of the external environment, and the construction of a Tenants Hall. It also told them that he was changing the vehicles and registration numbers to avoid detection. Government organisation. Govan covers a huge part of Glasgow's Southside and is famous the world over for its ship building and football team. Glasgow Crime Stories: The drug nightmare of Wine Alley (Image: Newsquest) Govan covers a huge part of Glasgow's Southside and is famous the world over for its ship building and football team. First, this fosters connectedness seen in social capital and enhanced trust in government and in fellow citizens. Add your own memories or stories by clicking here. Life in wine alley | CITY STROLLS I try and tell my grandkids what a fanfastic place it was to grow up, no money but lots of pals and never bored. My Aunt Marg and Cousin Debbie still live in Govan. Prihlsi sa. In 1996, a team from Channel 4's Time Team programme carried out an archeological excavation at the site. That suggested that the suspect was taking the van south to Manchester or Liverpool to pick up much larger drug consignments. Curtis Govan, 23, was convicted in July of rape, involuntary deviate sexual intercourse, aggravated indecent assault, terroristic threats, unlawful restraint, simple assault, resisting arrest,. Writing on behalf of my auntie. Lots of memories of that area. 123m New Cafe India Govan . I was born in 1952 and lived in Golspie Street until I was 10 when we moved to Garthamlock. Second, it encourage prospects for social inclusion by impioving living conditions and life changes while a third (indirect) factor is that, by working with authority, it can augment the personal development and enhanced confidence that participation can bring.9 [12], There is an oddity whereby part of eighteenth-century parish of Govan (which was in Lanarkshire) is counted as being within Renfrewshire. It is now an industrial estate . This is a 12th-century Latin source, but one believed to be based on much earlier materials; it records a place near Dumbarton Rock named Ouania. Around this time a second surveillance was being carried out on Burnside and three members of his team who had travelled to Liverpool in another car. And I went to see Grease at The Liceum on Govan Road. The City of Woodinville's Mayor Mike Millan cut the ribbon to mark the occasion. History [ edit] The newlyweds got engaged in April 2018 after dating for three years and were forced to delay their wedding last April due to the coronavirus pandemic. Mother has an excellent memory and I am attempting to write down stories about; the old shops; events streets and everything. The above digital stories were made by members of Govan Reminiscence Group for the Heritage Lottery funded Britain From Above Community Project in Govan, Glasgow, during Spring 2014. Govan (/vn/ GUV-n; Cumbric? Don't think I enjoyed my time at Govan High, who did but I remember the english teacher Johnny Duncan, Jock Reiburn (maths), who was strict but gave me a good basic knowledge of algebra which stood me in good stead for my future in engineering. Pauline Belkadi: Thanks for the name of the shop 'Bobby's'. I remember my mum and dad and telling me how Govan was full of works, tenements, shops and pubs and how it was a vibrant place, this was very different from 1970s Govan that I grew up in, instead it was like a town after the blitz, I remember large areas of spare ground where the tenements and shops once stood, I remember playing in the old derelict tenements and works and in the rubble of demolished tenements, in the old tenements in Orkney Street we pretended to pour pints in the old Albert Bar. I remember your family at 100 Harmony Row, my cousin Maisie McAlinden was friendly with the family also my Granny, or as she was better known, MAW Austin, hence I was bettter known a Joe Austin. NGR NS 55416 65081. sau. It was a Magical childhood play area, the closestairs were a Pirate Ship; Hospital; Wee Shop; School, aye in the 1950's we used our imagination rather than computers to stop us being bored! Darner had two criticisms of the improvement programme. Moorepark is a small area in the Scottish city of Glasgow. Socialites Karrueche Tran, left, and Christina Milian attend the Los Angeles premiere of Fox's 'Empire' at ArcLight Cinemas Cinerama Dome on January 6, 2015 in Hollywood, California. I was born 23 Elder Street, Govan in 1943. "It's within the margin of error, Joanna, let's be clear about that" Burnside, 42, known as the Godfather, lived on the top-floor flat of his tenement. Dry Docks Cafe. I always thought it was a listed building. Lots of memories too many to say here. RM 2E6CW9C - Workers line the street and applaud the hearse carrying former trade union official Jimmy Reid as it is driven past the Govan shipyard in Glasgow, Scotland August 19, 2010. Went to Drumoyne primary then Govan High. There was no point in carrying out any raids because the dealers could quickly escape and dispose of their drugs. THURSO BERWICK (1919-1981) Hullo! [10], Not much is known about any medieval village that may have surrounded the church until 1454 when it is recorded that whole houses, barns and mills in the village were brought down by a great flood. [8] Govan is Baile a' Ghobhainn (the smith's town) in Scottish Gaelic. This website and associated newspapers adhere to the Independent Press Standards Organisation's It was absolutely awesome growing up in Govan, lots of shops, such as; Galbraiths, Dands Bobby's, David's butchers, BrotherSoft paper shop, modern book shop, and Woolworths, we had a great wee doctors surgery on Langlands Road, Peacocks bakery, Nicholls store and Amey's cafe. USA. Resolved: Release in which this issue/RFE has been resolved. The Old Govan Fair. Sometimes it was hillarious, waiting in the queue to get onto that seat, and having to use The News of The World as toilet paper.wow! Before leaving the area in 1975, Damer sent in his report on Moorepark to the Housing Manager of the Corporation of Glasgow where he attacked the Corporation for failing to do its job in managing and maintaining both the houses and the environment in Moorepark. Young Young Winey (Govan) (G51) (Moorpark) 'Republican Wine Alley' . What Damer said about community could also be said about officialdom for they too can be victims of circumstance whenever decisions for the better do not influence policies for the worse. Around this time heroin dealing was rife in Govan, particularly in an area called Moorepark, which was nicknamed Wine Alley. Photos: Splash News. 100m Freshair Salon . Just looking for anybody who new the Paterson, dad george known as Geordie and mum Betty, sisters Elaine, Brenda and brother George. Owned by Harry Knop in the 40s. My Mother took me to the Southern and a giant black man came in. Brian McQuade, Reflection on Housing I attended Harmony Row School and Hills Trust Primary. My Aunt and Uncle Kathleen and Tommy Blacker lived in 6 Rathlin Street, Govan. Will they be full participants at setting the agenda for their locals or are these just pie crust promises?11 Will the same old story of the past three decades resurface where members of local communities are merely informed or consulted about changes in which they have no say?12 Perhaps one of the worst errors that the new regeneration policy is now making is that of ignoring the potential of local housing organisations as important instruments for inclusion and social capital, and their spill over effects of wider social and economic developments and issues. I think he lived in Partick and had 2 little girls. 14276 Southeast 176th Street. I have no memory just my dad's story. 25 bus to the Gladstone Gospel Hall at the corner of Golspie St and Logie St. In sum, effective participatory urban management calls for a fundamental rethink from all the players involved, from the local authorities and development agencies, through local (and sometimes international) non-governmental organisations, to the community-based organisations themselve; in redefining their roles and relationships, if something is to be done for the benefit of all. The first, Moorepark Grounds, was situated to the north of the mansion from the early 1900s and made way for the housing development;[12] the second (New Moore Park, opened in 1929) was to the south-west of the neighbourhood off Edmiston Drive[12] and had fallen into some disrepair before being replaced by a business park at the turn of the 21st century, with the club moving to new facilities at Shieldhall after some years of uncertainty.[13][14]. We had some chalk on us and we wrote on the outside of the lovely red tiles on the wall. And increase their/your revenues. Three times during my young life I was sent away to residential schools for being undernourished while just before my 14th birthday I was put away in an approved school (in 1963) for a large number of burglaries. Our children and grandchildren have been back many times as well. During the two-week surveillance every addict who called at Burnside's flat for drugs was then arrested by the team and questioned. Govan Church was rebuilt in 1762, and again in 1826. The following year, Fairfields and the other major Clydeside yards (Stephens, Connels, Yarrows and John Browns) were merged to form Upper Clyde Shipbuilders (UCS). My grandparents lived opposite and I remember being sent down to McGunness for an ounce of tobacco for my grand dads pipe. My granny Flora McFadyen was one of the oldest and longest residents in the Wine Alley. However, there is the potential for tourism development, for example, the planned development of the Govan Old site, which hosts the historically significant stone carvings, has led to the development of the surrounding townscape and new infrastructure. Non-governmental organisations working in the field such as the Church, charitable organisations, etc., have for a long time advocated Community Planning or management of the urban environment as the best solution to this problem of how to give a better quality of life to many of the citizens of our country. My sister and I were married in 1961 at Govan Parish where we were members. Of all the memories that I hold dear as a very young boy, was the guy pushing a barrow every Saturday afternoon selling bags of whelks! It never surfaced again until Lil Feeney came looking for me (who I had known from Govan Initiative) and asked me if I would be interested in helping to write a Report on poverty and deprivation (along with herself and Brian) inspired by Darners book on the same theme. I've looked at several sites like this, in search of a memory or a photo and never found a thing - yet it was a Govan institution. The following year in 1966, the yard was again reorganised as Fairfields and guaranteed by the government in response. A friend called Carol Slater. Home - Wineally Fond memories include falling in the Elder Park pond and breaking my collar bone, trying to do the fish and chips, building gang huts in the air-raid shelters and raking the middens.
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